John 3:8

John 3:8

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Expositor's Greek Testament — Expositor's Greek Testament — John (BibleHub)
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John 3:8 . τὸ πνεῦμα ὅπου θέλει πνεῖ . Two renderings of these words are possible: “The wind bloweth where it listeth,” as in A.V[39]; “The Spirit breatheth where He will,” as in margin of R.V[40] By the one rendering a comparison is instituted between the unseen but powerful ope...
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John 3:8 . τὸ πνεῦμα ὅπου θέλει πνεῖ . Two renderings of these words are possible: “The wind bloweth where it listeth,” as in A.V[39]; “The Spirit breatheth where He will,” as in margin of R.V[40] By the one rendering a comparison is instituted between the unseen but powerful operation of the Spirit in regeneration and the invisible but mighty power of the wind. You hear the voice of the wind but cannot see where it comes from nor where it goes to. So in the new birth the Spirit moves and works unseen. Similarly Socrates (Xen., Mem. , iv., 3) says: The thunder as it comes and goes is not seen: the winds also are invisible though their effects are manifest; the soul of man is itself unseen, therefore despise not the unseen but honour God. In favour of the other rendering it may be urged that there is nothing to warn us that we are now to understand that by the word πνεῦμα “wind” is meant. It occurs about 370 times in the N.T., and never means “wind” except once in a quotation from the O.T. The Vulgate renders “Spiritus ubi vult spirat,” and if we could not only say “expire,” “inspire,” but also “spire,” the best translation might be “the Spirit spires”. As this cannot be, we may render: “The Spirit breathes where He will,” that is to say, there is no limitation of His power to certain individuals, classes, races. Cf. John 5:21 , ὁ υἱὸς οὓς θέλει ζωοποιεῖ . The thought here is similar: there need be no despair regarding the second birth: the Spirit breathes where He will.
Expositor's Greek Testament — Expositor's Greek Testament — John (BibleHub)
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So Bengel, “ Spiritus , proprie, nam huic, non vento voluntas et vox est”.— καὶ τὴν φωνὴν αὐτοῦ ἀκούεις , the Spirit makes Himself audible in articulate and intelligible sounds. The breathing of the Spirit is like man’s breath, not mere air, but articulated and significant voice....
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So Bengel, “ Spiritus , proprie, nam huic, non vento voluntas et vox est”.— καὶ τὴν φωνὴν αὐτοῦ ἀκούεις , the Spirit makes Himself audible in articulate and intelligible sounds. The breathing of the Spirit is like man’s breath, not mere air, but articulated and significant voice. The Spirit works intelligible results. He does not roar like the wind and toss men in unavailing contortions as the wind tosses the trees. It is a voice and the result is full of reason, in harmony with human nature and vivifying it to higher life. But for all this, οὐκ οἶδας πόθεν ἔρχεται καὶ ποῦ ὑπάγει , you cannot observe and regulate the Spirit’s approach and departure.— οὕτως ἐστὶ πᾶς ὁ γεγεννημένος ἐκ τοῦ πνεύματος , thus it is in the case of every one who is born of the Spirit. You cannot see the process of regeneration; the process is secret and invisible, the results are apparent. [39] Authorised Version. [40] Revised Version.
Vincent's Word Studies — Vincent's Word Studies — John (BibleHub)
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The wind (τὸ πνεῦμα) Some hold by the translation spirit, as Wyc., the spirit breatheth where it will. In Hebrew the words spirit and wind are identical. Πνεῦμα is from πνέω to breathe or blow, the verb used in this verse (bloweth), and everywhere in the New Testament of the ...
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The wind (τὸ πνεῦμα) Some hold by the translation spirit, as Wyc., the spirit breatheth where it will. In Hebrew the words spirit and wind are identical. Πνεῦμα is from πνέω to breathe or blow, the verb used in this verse (bloweth), and everywhere in the New Testament of the blowing of the wind (Matthew 7:25, Matthew 7:27; Luke 12:55; John 6:18). It frequently occurs in the classics in the sense of wind. Thus Aristophanes, τὸ πνεῦμ' ἔλαττον γίγνεται, the wind is dying away ("Knights," 441), also in the New Testament, Hebrews 1:7, where the proper translation is, "who maketh His angels winds," quoted from Psalm 103:4 (Sept.). In the Septuagint, 1 Kings 18:45; 1 Kings 19:11; 2 Kings 3:17; Job 1:19. In the New Testament, in the sense of breath, 2 Thessalonians 2:8; Revelation 11:11. The usual rendering, wind, is confirmed here by the use of the kindred verb πνεῖ, bloweth, and by φωνὴν, sound, voice. Tholuck thinks that the figure may have been suggested to Jesus by the sound of the night-wind sweeping through the narrow street. Where it listeth (ὅπου θέλει) On the verb θέλω, to will or determine, see on Matthew 1:19. Listeth is old English for pleasure or willeth, from the Anglo-Saxon lust, meaning pleasure.
Vincent's Word Studies — Vincent's Word Studies — John (BibleHub)
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Chaucer has the forms leste, lust, and list. "Strong was the wyn, and wel to drynke us leste (pleased)." "Canterbury Tales," 752. "Love if thee lust." "Canterbury Tales," 1185. "She walketh up and down wher as hire list (wherever she pleases)." "Canterbury Tales," 1054. "A wretch...
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Chaucer has the forms leste, lust, and list. "Strong was the wyn, and wel to drynke us leste (pleased)." "Canterbury Tales," 752. "Love if thee lust." "Canterbury Tales," 1185. "She walketh up and down wher as hire list (wherever she pleases)." "Canterbury Tales," 1054. "A wretch by fear, not force, like Hannibal, Drives back our troops, and conquers as she lists." Shakespeare, "Henry VI.," Pt. I., i., v., 22. Hence listless is devoid of desire. The statement of Jesus is not meant to be scientifically precise, but is rather thrown into a poetic mold, akin to the familiar expression "free as the wind." Compare 1 Corinthians 12:11; and for the more prosaic description of the course of the wind, see Ecclesiastes 1:6. continued...
Geneva Study Bible — Geneva Study Bible — John (BibleHub)
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The wind bloweth where it {h} listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. (h) With free and wandering blasts as it wishes.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary — Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary — John (BibleHub)
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8. The wind, &c.—Breath and spirit (one word both in Hebrew and Greek) are constantly brought together in Scripture as analogous (Job 27:3; 33:4; Eze 37:9-14). canst not tell, &c.—The laws which govern the motion of the winds are even yet but partially discovered; but the risings...
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8. The wind, &c.—Breath and spirit (one word both in Hebrew and Greek) are constantly brought together in Scripture as analogous (Job 27:3; 33:4; Eze 37:9-14). canst not tell, &c.—The laws which govern the motion of the winds are even yet but partially discovered; but the risings, failings, and change in direction many times in a day, of those gentle breezes here referred to, will probably ever be a mystery to us: So of the operation of the Holy Ghost in the new birth.
Matthew Poole's Commentary — Matthew Poole's Commentary — John (BibleHub)
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The word which is translated wind, being the same which both here and ordinarily in Scripture is translated spirit, hath given interpreters a great liberty to abound in their several senses. Some thinking that it should be translated, The spirit, that is, the spirit of a man, bre...
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The word which is translated wind, being the same which both here and ordinarily in Scripture is translated spirit, hath given interpreters a great liberty to abound in their several senses. Some thinking that it should be translated, The spirit, that is, the spirit of a man, breatheth where it listeth; and that our Saviour’s sense was, Nicodemus, thou needest not to wonder that thou canst not with thy senses perceive the spiritual new birth, for thou canst not understand the natural birth. Others think it should be translated, The Spirit, that is, the Spirit of God, bloweth where it listeth; but that seemeth not probable, because of these words, so is every one that is born of the Spirit; which will hardly be sense if we understand the first part of the verse concerning the same Spirit; and our Saviour saith, John 3:12 , If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not: they seem therefore best to understand it, who interpret it of a terrene spirit, particularly the wind, which is of a spiritual nature: and thus, by their translation, it is apparent that our interpreters understood it.
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So as, though our Saviour speaketh of the motions of the blessed Spirit, yet he speaketh of them by way of comparison, comparing them to the motion of the wind, of which he said, that it bloweth where it listeth; not that it is its own mover, and under no government of the First ...
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So as, though our Saviour speaketh of the motions of the blessed Spirit, yet he speaketh of them by way of comparison, comparing them to the motion of the wind, of which he said, that it bloweth where it listeth; not that it is its own mover, and under no government of the First Cause; for the Psalmist tells us, Psalm 148:8 , that the stormy winds fulfil God’s word; nor is any such thing compatible to any creature; but the original of its motion is to us imperceptible. But canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: we can speak something philosophically to the cause of it, and can tell whither it bloweth, from the east, west, north, or south; but we cannot tell the particular place, where or from whence it riseth. So is every one that is born of the Spirit: so every one, who is regenerated from the working of the Holy Spirit of God, is changed and renewed, so as we can give ourselves or others no account of it in all points, as to the inward operation, though in the effects it be discernible.
Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges — Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges — John (BibleHub)
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8 . The wind bloweth , &c.] This verse is sometimes taken very differently: the Spirit breatheth where He willeth, and thou hearest His voice, but canst not tell whence He cometh and whither He goeth; so is every one ( born ) who is born of the Spirit . The advantages of this ren...
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8 . The wind bloweth , &c.] This verse is sometimes taken very differently: the Spirit breatheth where He willeth, and thou hearest His voice, but canst not tell whence He cometh and whither He goeth; so is every one ( born ) who is born of the Spirit . The advantages of this rendering are (1) that it gives to Pneuma the meaning which it almost invariably has in more than 350 passages in N.T. in which it occurs, of which more than 20 are in this Gospel. Although pneuma may mean ‘the breath of the wind,’ yet its almost invariable use in N.T. is ‘spirit’ or ‘the Spirit,’ while anemos is used for ‘wind:’ (2) that it gives a better meaning to ‘willeth,’ a word more appropriate to a person than to anything inanimate: (3) that it gives to phônê the meaning which it has in 14 other passages in this Gospel, viz., ‘articulate voice ,’ and not ‘inarticulate sound .’ On the other hand this rendering (1) gives to pnei the meaning ‘breathes,’ a meaning quite unknown in N.T.: (2) uses the expression ‘the voice of the Spirit,’ also unknown to Scripture: (3) requires the insertion of ‘born’ in the last clause, in order to make sense. For the usual rendering may be pleaded (1) that it gives to pnei the meaning which it has everywhere else in N.T., viz. in John 6:18 and five other passages.
Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges — Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges — John (BibleHub)
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Although pnei may mean ‘breathes,’ yet its invariable use in N.T. is of the ‘blowing’ of the wind, while another word ( John 20:22 ) is used for ‘breathe:’ (2) that it gives the most literal meaning to ‘hearest:’ (3) that the last clause makes excellent sense without any repetiti...
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Although pnei may mean ‘breathes,’ yet its invariable use in N.T. is of the ‘blowing’ of the wind, while another word ( John 20:22 ) is used for ‘breathe:’ (2) that it gives the most literal meaning to ‘hearest:’ (3) that the last clause makes excellent sense without any repetition of ‘born.’ The Aramaic word probably used by our Lord has both meanings, ‘wind’ and ‘spirit,’ so that it is not impossible that both meanings are meant to run concurrently through the passage. “It was late at night when our Lord had this interview with the Jewish teacher. At the pauses in the conversation, we may conjecture, they heard the wind without, as it moaned along the narrow streets of Jerusalem; and our Lord, as was His wont, took His creature into His service—the service of spiritual truth. The wind was a figure of the Spirit. Our Lord would have used the same word for both.” (Liddon.) There is a clear reference to this passage in the Ignatian Epistles, Philad . vii. Thus we have evidence of the Gospel being known certainly as early as a.d. 150, and probably a.d. 115. so is every one ] i.e. such is the case of every one: he feels the spiritual influence, but finds it incomprehensible in its origin, which is from above, and in its end, which is eternal life. born of the Spirit ] The Sinaitic MS. and two ancient versions read, born of water and of the Spirit . The inserted words are a gloss.
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John 3:8 . Τὸ πνεῦμα ) The Spirit , in the proper sense; for it is He, not the wind (concerning which, however, comp. Ecclesiastes 11:5 ), that has a will [ θέλει ] and voice [ φωνήν ]: and it is of Him we are born , and he who is born of Him is such as He is. It is not the perso...
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John 3:8 . Τὸ πνεῦμα ) The Spirit , in the proper sense; for it is He, not the wind (concerning which, however, comp. Ecclesiastes 11:5 ), that has a will [ θέλει ] and voice [ φωνήν ]: and it is of Him we are born , and he who is born of Him is such as He is. It is not the person born again who would be immediately compared with the wind, but the Spirit Himself.— ὅπου ) where, whence , and whither : above the flesh, earth, and nature. The things opposed are, flesh and spirit ; earth and heaven; nature and grace.— πνεῖ ) [ bloweth , Engl. Vers.: rather, as of the Spirit] breathes , in the word and sound of the Gospel; 1 John 5:6 , “And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.”— ἀκούεις , thou hearest ) even now also, whilst thou art hearing Me, thou hearest, on earth , the voice of the Spirit. Comp. the “ earthly things,” John 3:12 .— πόθεν , whence ) from heaven, from above [ ἄνωθεν , John 3:3 ].— ποῦ , whither ) [‘quorsum,’ in what direction] to heaven . Comp. the “ heavenly things,” John 3:12 .— οὓτως ) So , as the Spirit Himself, whom thou hearest, and yet knowest not. For what the Spirit doeth according to Himself [“ secundum se ;” in His own person and character], that He doeth also in him who is born of the Spirit. The Spirit quickens a man. The man in whom the Spirit breathes, in his turn breathes of the Spirit, and gives forth abroad [propagat] the voice of the Spirit, his will being set free through the Spirit.[53] [53] The Engl.
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Vers. listeth—sound applies to the wind ; whereas Beng. applies these words to the Spirit.—E. and T.

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