1 Samuel 27:8

1 Samuel 27:8

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Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary — Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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27:8-12 While David was in the land of the Philistines, he attacked some remains of the devoted nations. The people whom he cut off were long before doomed to destruction. It is often wisdom to shun public notice, but we must in no situation be idle. We must always try to do some...
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27:8-12 While David was in the land of the Philistines, he attacked some remains of the devoted nations. The people whom he cut off were long before doomed to destruction. It is often wisdom to shun public notice, but we must in no situation be idle. We must always try to do somewhat in the cause of God. This expedition David hid from Achish. But an equivocation which serves the purpose of a lie, is as like to it as a hypocrite is to a profane person, it is only better in appearance, therefore more dangerous. Yet, though believers often manifest imperfections, they can never be prevailed upon to renounce the service of God, and to unite interests with his enemies, or finally to become the servants of sin and Satan. But what a train of evils follow from unbelief! When we forget the Lord's past mercies, and his gracious assurances, we shall be overwhelmed with desponding fears, and probably be led to adopt some dishonourable method to get rid of our troubles. Nothing can so effectually establish us in holy tempers and practices, and preserve us from perplexities, as firm, unshaken dependence upon the promises of God in Christ Jesus.
Benson Commentary — Benson Commentary — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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1 Samuel 27:8 . David and his men invaded the Geshurites, &c. — These were some remains of the Amorites, and other ancient inhabitants of the country; whom God, for their inveterate and incorrigible wickedness, had commanded to be extirpated. And they “were not confederate with A...
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1 Samuel 27:8 . David and his men invaded the Geshurites, &c. — These were some remains of the Amorites, and other ancient inhabitants of the country; whom God, for their inveterate and incorrigible wickedness, had commanded to be extirpated. And they “were not confederate with Achish, but in a state of hostility with him; particularly the Amalekites, whom we find soon after making great depredations upon the Philistine territories, chap. 1 Samuel 30:16 . David, therefore, did not act in the least dishonourably by him, but in reality for his service, in the attack he made on them. It is further to be remarked, that as those people were on the south of Judah, they made frequent incursions into the land, and were the avowed enemies of the Hebrews. This is certain at least of the Amalekites, the remnant of those whom Saul destroyed, (chap. 15.,) who had retired into remote and distant places. Of these frequent mention is made in the books of the Old Testament, as engaged in many expeditions to plunder the country and destroy the inhabitants. David, therefore, had a right to cut off those nations; as deserving the character of a man after God’s own heart, he was called upon to do it; and in doing it he served his country, without injuring his protector and friend.” — Chandler. But it has been objected, that it was unjustifiable in David, being a private man, to act thus without a warrant from Achish or from God, which it does not appear that he had.
Benson Commentary — Benson Commentary — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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In answer to this it must be observed, that he did not act as a private man, but as one elected and anointed to the kingdom. And “the same Spirit of God which once inspired Saul with all regal virtues, was now gone over to David, and rested on him, and it were very strange if Dav...
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In answer to this it must be observed, that he did not act as a private man, but as one elected and anointed to the kingdom. And “the same Spirit of God which once inspired Saul with all regal virtues, was now gone over to David, and rested on him, and it were very strange if David, as king-elect of Israel, could have any guilt in doing that which Saul, as a king in possession, was deposed for not doing.” — Delaney.
Pulpit Commentary — Pulpit Commentary — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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Verse 8. - Went up. The Geshurites inhabited the high table land which forms the northeastern portion of the wilderness of Paran. Like the Kenites, they seem to have broken up into scattered tribes, as we find one portion of them in the neighbourhood of Bashan ( Deuteronomy 3:14 ...
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Verse 8. - Went up. The Geshurites inhabited the high table land which forms the northeastern portion of the wilderness of Paran. Like the Kenites, they seem to have broken up into scattered tribes, as we find one portion of them in the neighbourhood of Bashan ( Deuteronomy 3:14 ), and another in Syria ( 2 Samuel 15:8 ). Probably, like the Amalekites, they were a Bedouin race, and so great wanderers. Hence the verb translated invaded is literally "spread themselves out" like a fan, so as to enclose these nomads, whose safety lay in flight. Gezrites . The written text has Girzites , which the Kri has changed into Gezrites, probably from a wish to connect a name never mentioned elsewhere with the town of Gezer. But Gezer lay far away in the west of Ephraim, and the connection suggested in modern times of the Girzites with Mount Gerizim in Central Palestine is more probable. They would thus be the remains of a once more powerful people, dispossessed by the Amorites, but who were now probably a very feeble remnant. For those nations, etc. The grammar and translation of this clause are both full of difficulties, but the following rendering is perhaps the least objectionable: "For these were (the families) inhabiting the land, which were of old, as thou goest towards Shur," etc. Families must be supplied because the participle inhabiting is feminine.
Pulpit Commentary — Pulpit Commentary — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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What, then, the narrator means to say is that these three Bedouin tribes were the aboriginal inhabitants of the northwestern portion of the desert between Egypt and South Palestine. On the Amalekites see 1 Samuel 15:2 . We need not wonder at finding them mentioned again so soon a...
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What, then, the narrator means to say is that these three Bedouin tribes were the aboriginal inhabitants of the northwestern portion of the desert between Egypt and South Palestine. On the Amalekites see 1 Samuel 15:2 . We need not wonder at finding them mentioned again so soon after Saul's expedition. A race of nomads would sustain no great harm from an expedition which soon began to occupy itself with capturing cattle. On Shur see 1 Samuel 15:7 . 1 Samuel 27:8
Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges — Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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8–12. David’s raids upon neighbouring tribes 8 . the Geshurites ] A tribe dwelling south of Philistia near the Amalekites (see Joshua 13:2 ), to be distinguished from the Geshurites in Syria ( 2 Samuel 15:8 ). the Gezrites ] These cannot be the inhabitants of Gezer ( Joshua 10:33...
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8–12. David’s raids upon neighbouring tribes 8 . the Geshurites ] A tribe dwelling south of Philistia near the Amalekites (see Joshua 13:2 ), to be distinguished from the Geshurites in Syria ( 2 Samuel 15:8 ). the Gezrites ] These cannot be the inhabitants of Gezer ( Joshua 10:33 ), which was far away from the scene of David’s operations. The written text ( Kthîbh ) as distinguished from the traditional reading ( Qrî ) has Gerzites. It has been conjectured that this was an ancient Arab tribe which at one time wandered up northwards and gave its name to Mount Gerizim; as their neighbours the Amalekites left traces of former migrations in the name “the mountain of the Amalekites” in the territory of Ephraim ( Jdg 12:15 ). the Amalekites ] Such remnants of them as had escaped from Saul’s sword. See on 1 Samuel 15:8 . those nations were of old , &c.] If the text is right, the E. V. gives the general sense correctly. The allusion to their ancient occupation of the district may be inserted with reference to the Amalekite attack upon Israel in the march from Egypt ( Exodus 17:8 ff.). But the Heb. is obscure, and possibly should be emended so as to give the sense, “for these nations inhabited the land from Telem until thou comest to Shur, and unto the land of Egypt.” Telem would be mentioned as the southernmost city of Israel. See on 1 Samuel 15:4 .
Geneva Study Bible — Geneva Study Bible — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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And David and his men went up, and invaded the {d} Geshurites, and the Gezrites, and the Amalekites: for those nations were of old the inhabitants of the land, as thou goest to Shur, even unto the land of Egypt. (d) These were the wicked Canaanites, whom God had appointed to be d...
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And David and his men went up, and invaded the {d} Geshurites, and the Gezrites, and the Amalekites: for those nations were of old the inhabitants of the land, as thou goest to Shur, even unto the land of Egypt. (d) These were the wicked Canaanites, whom God had appointed to be destroyed.
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers — Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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(8) Went up. —The expression is strictly accurate. The nomad tribes against whom his expeditions were directed dwelt on higher ground than David’s home at Ziklag, apparently on the wide extent of the mountain plateau, that high table-land at the north-east of the desert of Paran....
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(8) Went up. —The expression is strictly accurate. The nomad tribes against whom his expeditions were directed dwelt on higher ground than David’s home at Ziklag, apparently on the wide extent of the mountain plateau, that high table-land at the north-east of the desert of Paran. The Geshurites, and the Gezerites, and the Amalekites.—These were all “Bedaween” tribes, the scourge of the Israelitish families dwelling on the south of Canaan. It is not easy to identify the first two named of these nomades against whom David directed his operations. We hear of these Geshurites in the neighbourhood of Bashan (Deuteronomy 3:14), and of another tribe of them in Syria (2Samuel 15:8). They were a widely scattered race of nomad Arabs. The Gezerites, or Gizrites, it has been supposed, were the remains of a once powerful race dispossessed by the Amorites. The third named, the Amalekites, were the remnant of that once powerful tribe destroyed by Saul in his famous war, when his disobedience incurred the wrath of Samuel. For those nations were of old the inhabitants of the land, as thou goest to Shur, even unto the land of Egypt.—The grammar and construction of this sentence is confused and difficult.
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers — Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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On the whole, the rendering and explanation of Erdmann in Lange seems the most satisfactory: “David . . . invaded the . . . and the Amalekites (for these were inhabitants of the land, who inhabited it of old) as far as Shur and Egypt.” Thus David’s raids extended as far as the de...
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On the whole, the rendering and explanation of Erdmann in Lange seems the most satisfactory: “David . . . invaded the . . . and the Amalekites (for these were inhabitants of the land, who inhabited it of old) as far as Shur and Egypt.” Thus David’s raids extended as far as the desert frontier of Egypt.
Barnes' Notes on the Bible — Barnes' Notes on the Bible — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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The Geshurites bordered upon the Philistines, and lived in the mountainous district which terminates the desert on the northeast (marginal reference). They were a different tribe, or, at least, a different branch of it, from the Geshurites who lived on the northeast border of Bas...
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The Geshurites bordered upon the Philistines, and lived in the mountainous district which terminates the desert on the northeast (marginal reference). They were a different tribe, or, at least, a different branch of it, from the Geshurites who lived on the northeast border of Bashan, and were Arameans 2 Samuel 15:8 . The Gezrites, or Gerzites, may be connected with those who gave their name to Mount Gerizim.
Matthew Poole's Commentary — Matthew Poole's Commentary — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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The Gezrites were anciently seated in other places, Joshua 12:12 16:3 , but for some reasons not now known they changed their seats, as was then very usual, and seated themselves, and had for some considerable time lived, near the Amalekites. The Amalekites; the remnant of those ...
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The Gezrites were anciently seated in other places, Joshua 12:12 16:3 , but for some reasons not now known they changed their seats, as was then very usual, and seated themselves, and had for some considerable time lived, near the Amalekites. The Amalekites; the remnant of those whom Saul destroyed, 1Sa 15 , who fled from his sword, and retired into remote and desert places.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary — Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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8. David … went up, and invaded the Geshurites—(See Jos 13:2). and the Gezrites—or the Gerizi [Gesenius], (Jos 12:12), some Arab horde which had once encamped there. and the Amalekites—Part of the district occupied by them lay on the south of the land of Israel (Jud 5:14; 12:15).

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