1 Samuel 17:55

1 Samuel 17:55

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Benson Commentary — Benson Commentary — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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1 Samuel 17:55 . Whose son is this youth? — It may, at first sight, appear strange that Saul should be represented here as not knowing who David was, when we have a relation in the foregoing chapter of his sending for him to court, being highly pleased with his behaviour, and muc...
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1 Samuel 17:55 . Whose son is this youth? — It may, at first sight, appear strange that Saul should be represented here as not knowing who David was, when we have a relation in the foregoing chapter of his sending for him to court, being highly pleased with his behaviour, and much delighted with his music, making him his armour-bearer, and sending to his father Jesse to ask his leave for his continuance at court. But it may be observed that Saul, in this place, does not express an entire ignorance of David, but only inquires whose son he was — A question of the more consequence to him, as he had promised his daughter in marriage to the conqueror of Goliath. Either Saul had never before made any inquiry about his parentage, or both he and Abner had forgotten whence he was. And this might very easily happen to a king and a general of an army, who daily see and have to do with so many different faces, and who pay so little regard to things of this sort. Nay, if Saul had entirely forgotten David, it would not have been strange, considering that he had been but little with him, had some time ago been dismissed from the court, and was returned home, where he had remained at least a year or two, during which time Saul had not seen him. Besides, the distemper of Saul’s mind might make him forgetful, and David might now be much changed, both in his countenance and in his habit.
Benson Commentary — Benson Commentary — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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Abner said, I cannot tell — Abner’s employment was generally in the camp, when David was at the court; and when Abner was there he probably took little notice of a youth so much inferior to him as David was. “We may learn from the whole of this pleasing chapter,” says Dr. Dodd, “...
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Abner said, I cannot tell — Abner’s employment was generally in the camp, when David was at the court; and when Abner was there he probably took little notice of a youth so much inferior to him as David was. “We may learn from the whole of this pleasing chapter,” says Dr. Dodd, “how ready God is to help those who trust in him; for whose defence and protection he makes use of means apparently the most weak, to humble the pride of the wicked, and to destroy the powers which seem most formidable. Some writers have considered this destruction of Goliath by David as a type of the victory of Jesus Christ, in his state of weakness and humiliation, over the strong and gigantic powers of hell and the grave.”
Pulpit Commentary — Pulpit Commentary — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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Verses 55-58. - Abner, whose son is this youth? Hebrew, "lad," na'ar. We have seen that the narrative in 1 Samuel 16:21-23 carries the history of David's relations with Saul down to a much later period, and that in ver. 15 of this chapter David is represented as not dwelling cont...
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Verses 55-58. - Abner, whose son is this youth? Hebrew, "lad," na'ar. We have seen that the narrative in 1 Samuel 16:21-23 carries the history of David's relations with Saul down to a much later period, and that in ver. 15 of this chapter David is represented as not dwelling continuously at Saul's court, but as having returned to Bethlehem and resumed his pastoral occupations there, whence he would be summoned back in case of the recurrence of Saul's malady. It is plain from what is stated here that David had not thus far spent time enough at Gibeah to be personally well known either to Saul or his officers (see note on ver. 15). Stripling . Not na'ar , but alem , the masculine of the word almah , used in Isaiah 7:14 . It means a young man fully grown, and arrived at the age to marry, and so is more definite than na'ar , which Saul uses in ver. 58. As David returned, etc. Abner, as captain of the host, would naturally watch the combat, and as soon as it was possible would bring the young warrior into the king's presence. But what is recorded here could have taken place only after the pursuit of the Philistines was over, and really these five verses should be united with ch. 17, as their object is to introduce the account of the love. of Jonathan for David.
Pulpit Commentary — Pulpit Commentary — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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Starting then with the inquiry made by the king of Abner, asking for fuller information as to the young man's parentage, the historian then tells how after the chase he was brought before Saul, and then, in 1 Samuel 18:1 , that the result of their conversation was the warm love t...
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Starting then with the inquiry made by the king of Abner, asking for fuller information as to the young man's parentage, the historian then tells how after the chase he was brought before Saul, and then, in 1 Samuel 18:1 , that the result of their conversation was the warm love that henceforward knit together these two kindred souls. 1 Samuel 17:55
Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges — Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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55–58. Saul’s inquiry concerning David’s parentage 55 . he said unto Abner ] This section is not found in the Septuagint (B). On the difficulty of reconciling it with ch. 16 see Note VI. P. 241.
Geneva Study Bible — Geneva Study Bible — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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And when Saul saw David go forth against the Philistine, he said unto Abner, the captain of the host, Abner, {e} whose son is this youth? And Abner said, As thy soul liveth, O king, I cannot tell. (e) That is, of what family and tribe is he? He had forgotten David, even though he...
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And when Saul saw David go forth against the Philistine, he said unto Abner, the captain of the host, Abner, {e} whose son is this youth? And Abner said, As thy soul liveth, O king, I cannot tell. (e) That is, of what family and tribe is he? He had forgotten David, even though he had received so great a benefit by him.
Barnes' Notes on the Bible — Barnes' Notes on the Bible — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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Whose son ... - See the marginal reference note.
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers — Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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(55) Whose son is this youth? —A grave difficulty, at first sight, indisputably exists here. It is briefly this. In the preceding chapter ( 1Samuel 17:18-23 ), David, the son of Jesse, is chosen to play before the mentally sick king; his playing relieved the sufferer, who became ...
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(55) Whose son is this youth? —A grave difficulty, at first sight, indisputably exists here. It is briefly this. In the preceding chapter ( 1Samuel 17:18-23 ), David, the son of Jesse, is chosen to play before the mentally sick king; his playing relieved the sufferer, who became attached to the young musician, and in consequence appointed him to a position about his person that certainly would have involved a lengthened, if not a continuous, residence at the court. In this and the following verses we read how this same David, at the time of his great exploit, was apparently unknown to the king and to Abner, the captain of the host. The LXX., fully conscious of the difficulty, determined to solve it by boldly, if not wisely, cutting the knot. They literally expunged from their version all the later passages which they could not easily bring into harmony with the earlier. The Greek Version, then, simply omits these four last verses of 1 Samuel 17, together with the first five verses of 1 Samuel 18, and the whole of the section 1Samuel 17:12-31 .
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers — Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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Various ingenious explanations have been suggested by scholars. (a) The mental state of Saul when David played before him was such that the king failed to recognise him on the present occasion, and Abner probably had never seen him before. (b) Some length of time had elapsed sinc...
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Various ingenious explanations have been suggested by scholars. (a) The mental state of Saul when David played before him was such that the king failed to recognise him on the present occasion, and Abner probably had never seen him before. (b) Some length of time had elapsed since his last visit to the court, and as he was then in very early manhood, he had, so to speak, grown, in a comparatively speaking short space of time, out of Saul’s memory. (c) The purpose of Saul’s inquiry was not to find out who David was—that he knew well already—but to ascertain the position and general circumstances of the young hero’s father, as, according to the promise (in 1Samuel 17:25), in the event of his success (which evidently the king confidently looked for), the father of the champion and his family would receive extraordinary honours. The real solution of the difficulty probably lies in the fact that, as has been before stated, this and the other historical books of the Old Testament were made up by the inspired compiler from well-authenticated traditions current in Israel, and most probably preserved in the archives of the great prophetic schools. (See Notes on 1Samuel 17:1; 1Samuel 17:15.) There were, no doubt, many of these traditions connected with the principal events of David’s early career. Two here were selected which, to a certain extent, covered the same ground.
Matthew Poole's Commentary — Matthew Poole's Commentary — 1 Samuel (BibleHub)
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Whose son is this youth? Quest. How could David be unknown to Saul, with whom he had lived? 1 Samuel 16:21 . Answ. That might well be, for divers reasons, because David was not constantly with him, nor, as it seems, used by him, but upon extraordinary occasions, and desperate fit...
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Whose son is this youth? Quest. How could David be unknown to Saul, with whom he had lived? 1 Samuel 16:21 . Answ. That might well be, for divers reasons, because David was not constantly with him, nor, as it seems, used by him, but upon extraordinary occasions, and desperate fits of melancholy; from which possibly he had been free for a good while, by God’s special providence and care for his people Israel, that so he might be capable of governing and protecting them against the Philistines, who watched all opportunities against them, and at last broke forth into an open war. Thus David had been for some considerable time dismissed from Saul’s court, and was returned home; and therefore it is not strange, if Saul had for the present forgotten David; for kings, because of the encumbrance of public business, and the multitude of persons who come to them on several occasions, may easily forget some persons; yea, such as have frequently been with them, especially their servants, whom they do not use to observe with so much attention and care as they do others. Add to this, that the distemper of Saul’s mind might make him forgetful; and that David might now be much changed, both in his countenance and in his habit, from what he had before; and it is apparent, that the change of habits makes so great a difference, that it oft keeps us from the knowledge of those persons whom in other habits we very well know.

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